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Obrigaggi es un disco que se siente en la entra\u00f1a cuando lo escuchas por primera vez, emociona, a m\u00ed me hizo sentir como flotando en una ola de fluorescencia azul que te mece, te sacude, te revuelca, te vuelve a mecer pero nunca te ahoga. \u00bfUstedes a d\u00f3nde llegaron cuando lo escucharon por primera vez ya terminado y listo para lanzarlo al mundo? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: Para m\u00ed es un disco plagado de recuerdos y lugares. Cada canci\u00f3n me transporta a un lugar o a un momento. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

La noche en que tuvimos en nuestras manos todas las mezclas terminadas fui a visitar a Jer\u00f3nimo con un amigo que ten\u00eda el coraz\u00f3n muy lastimado. El disco estaba sonando en su departamento y nuestro amigo lloraba mientras lo abrazamos y a ratos re\u00edamos. Me acuerdo de sentir mucho amor y amistad, y saber que el disco conten\u00eda mucho cari\u00f1o. Cada canci\u00f3n del disco me trasmite recuerdos como este, algunos muy alegres, otros melanc\u00f3licos, pero siempre rodeados de amor. Es un disco que lo siento como un abrazo. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Grabaron este disco en la selva junto a un r\u00edo, \u00bfc\u00f3mo influy\u00f3 la naturaleza en su proceso creativo? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: Creo que este disco no hubiera sido posible sin estar ah\u00ed. Estuvimos todos juntos diez d\u00edas en un lugar alucinante y al mismo tiempo para m\u00ed muy conocido, pues yo crec\u00ed jugando por esos r\u00edos. Todo era muy org\u00e1nico, nos levant\u00e1bamos temprano, hac\u00edamos de comer mientras Mateo montaba todo. Sal\u00edamos a desayunar al jard\u00edn mientras nos organiz\u00e1bamos sobre qu\u00e9 har\u00edamos ese d\u00eda. As\u00ed hicimos una canci\u00f3n al d\u00eda, la mayor\u00eda inventadas al momento, compon\u00edamos y grab\u00e1bamos e \u00edbamos a nadar al r\u00edo, mir\u00e1bamos la luz filtrase entre los \u00e1rboles gigantescos. Las noches estaban llenas de grillos y chicharras y las ma\u00f1anas de p\u00e1jaros por todos lados. Todo eso se meti\u00f3 en el disco porque se meti\u00f3 en nosotros. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u00bfEn d\u00f3nde encuentran ustedes el punto m\u00e1s brillante al tocar en vivo? \u00bfEn la conexi\u00f3n que generan con el p\u00fablico, en la conexi\u00f3n que generan entre ustedes, en el trance individual\u2026?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: Para m\u00ed se trata de perderme de m\u00ed mismo, de sentir mucho las cosas que digo como si por primera vez encontrara esa palabra o esa nota en el saxof\u00f3n, cosa que se logra con la conexi\u00f3n que logramos, no siempre sucede, pero cuando sucede es magn\u00edfico y le da sentido a todo. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00bfEste disco es para ustedes la invenci\u00f3n de un nuevo sue\u00f1o? \u00bfC\u00f3mo ha avanzado su coraz\u00f3n musical del \u00faltimo disco a este?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: En mi opini\u00f3n expresa algo muy distinto. Los anteriores siempre los sent\u00ed como una resistencia. Era dif\u00edcil hacerlos, era dif\u00edcil sacarlos a la luz, estaban llenos de furia y nadaban a contracorriente. Eso me gustaba, eso era lo que me parec\u00eda valioso en ellos y ciertamente esa furia y ambici\u00f3n abri\u00f3 camino para este nuevo disco. Ahora no necesitamos hacer ruido para sentir que nos escuchamos, es un \u00e1lbum nost\u00e1lgico y reflexivo, su universo es menos herm\u00e9tico y sin embargo es muy abundante. Escrib\u00ed las letras de La Vida de Alguien M\u00e1s<\/em> mirando hacia afuera, hacia las otras personas, este lo hice mirando la ventana de mi cuarto pensando en mi vida. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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En la m\u00fasica y letras de este disco se refleja un mundo on\u00edrico, nost\u00e1lgico que en vivo se vuelve un ritual de encantamiento. \u00bfUstedes est\u00e1n conscientes de ello? \u00bfLo crearon as\u00ed a prop\u00f3sito o ese esp\u00edritu psicod\u00e9lico lleg\u00f3 de forma org\u00e1nica? Cu\u00e9ntanos un poco de este camino\/proceso.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: La verdad no le pensamos mucho pero la mayor\u00eda de las letras llegan al mismo tiempo que la m\u00fasica y eso ayuda a que amalgamen. Son canciones que entendemos muy bien, solemos hablar m\u00e1s de la sensaci\u00f3n de las canciones que de la manera t\u00e9cnica de tocarlas. Creo que en eso tenemos muy buena comunicaci\u00f3n. En vivo s\u00ed pensamos c\u00f3mo llegar a construir un momento especial, pero no lo pensamos mucho y eso es clave. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

En cuanto al esp\u00edritu psicod\u00e9lico me parece que viene de la apertura y la escucha cuando tocamos, nos dejamos influenciar por lo que acontezca, dejamos que las cosas muten y nos acostumbramos a ellas, construimos de momentos muy inc\u00f3modos momentos de sentido y los volvemos a desbaratar sin ataduras. Eso da esa sensaci\u00f3n psicod\u00e9lica de que todo tiene sentido o est\u00e1 en su lugar y est\u00e1 vivo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pensando en este disco como una semilla, \u00bfqu\u00e9 expectativas tienen de la cosecha?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: Sinceramente no lo s\u00e9 y creo que as\u00ed lo prefiero. Pero me siento muy bien de que haya dejado de ser solamente nuestro para ser de quien quiera escucharlo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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La palabra Obrigaggi, \u00bfest\u00e1 relacionada con las \u201cgracias\u201d del \u201cobrigado\u201d en portugu\u00e9s?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jon\u00e1s: No realmente, pero nos gusta su semejanza. Obriggagi es un t\u00e9rmino de joyer\u00eda imposible, es hacer una incrustaci\u00f3n l\u00edquida sobre un s\u00f3lido. No s\u00e9 si eso alguna vez fue realizado pero nos gustaba la imagen. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00bfQu\u00e9 es la poes\u00eda?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Siempre creo que estoy listo para responder esta pregunta hasta que alguien de verdad pregunta. Reflexiono mucho acerca de esto y ha cambiado con los a\u00f1os.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00daltimamente pienso que es un momento entre nuestro pensamiento m\u00e1gico y nuestro pensamiento anal\u00edtico donde nos es posible nombrar los acontecimientos. Pienso as\u00ed que todas las palabras tienen un g\u00e9nesis po\u00e9tico que van perdiendo mientras m\u00e1s se alejan de su origen para s\u00f3lo ser referenciales y meramente anal\u00edticas. Sin embargo jugando con las mismas, volvemos a encontrar momentos entre la magia y el sentido, \u00a1un hallazgo! y las palabras recuperan su potencia. Revelan el mundo en vez de ocultarlo y por supuesto que la m\u00fasica es clave para ello. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u00bfQu\u00e9 es el amor?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Esta es m\u00e1s complicada y tantas veces se ha respondido tan mal as\u00ed que prefiero ahora no responder por miedo a equivocarme, pero Lupone una vez me dijo que el amor es cuando ves tu cara reflejada en los ojos de otra persona, a m\u00ed me parece un poco cursi pero me gusta, s\u00ed creo que tiene que ver con la mirada y con el reconocimiento. Pero tambi\u00e9n creo que es algo muy basto que tiene dentro muchas cosas cosas que no quisi\u00e9ramos que fueran parte del amor. Creo que es una fuerza muy potente y amorfa y que deja su rastro en todo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00bfC\u00f3mo la m\u00fasica nos puede salvar en estos tiempos de guerras y desasosiego?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

La m\u00fasica es una medicina muy potente, tambi\u00e9n es una gran manera de hacerte entender y de entender al otro. Esto sin duda ayuda, pero no creo que la m\u00fasica nos salvar\u00e1 de la guerra, no s\u00e9 si a la m\u00fasica le molesta la guerra, pues hay m\u00fasica muy hermosa inventada para la guerra y para sanar y contar las heridas que la guerra deja. La m\u00fasica viene aparte. Del desasosiego, si as\u00ed lo queremos, s\u00ed nos salva, la m\u00fasica nos hace m\u00e1s dichosos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Interview by Pamela Rivera M\u00e9ndez<\/a>
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